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McDonald in Hanoi - Fact or Fiction - Answers for Hanoi

Asked about 64 months ago by joeburg
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McDonald in Hanoi - Fact or Fiction

The rumour doing the rounds is that the old Bobby Chins restaurant at Hoan Kiem Lake is earmarked as a first McDonalds in the city!

Does anyone have any confirmation on this?

Can we start a petition against it!

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answered about 64 months ago by hanoiBloke

Have heard the same rumour but cannot verify. If so, the it is a truely sad day for Ha Noi.
I expect money talks louder than a petition.

answered about 64 months ago by Enzedda
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I heard that, but then I also heard it was going to become a bank, so who knows ...

answered about 64 months ago by jtyo
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fiction.

answered about 64 months ago by granteralus

It may not be at Bobby Chin's old place, but the arrival of McDonald's is inevitable. KFC and Pizza Hut are already here. Unfortunately, a petition or protest won't solve much.

Just make sure you avoid the place like the plague, and chastise anyone you know who goes there.

answered about 64 months ago by pippasweetie

Another rumour I heard was that Maccas had tried here and failed.....

answered about 64 months ago by pippasweetie

Also about starting a petition if it is, in fact true - I think all of the same arguments apply from when we discussed KFC a few months ago (granteralus original post, I think?) Read those and subsitute Maccas for kFC and burgers/fries from any other place, instead of chicken.

answered about 64 months ago by tinhtinhxinh

there have been various rumours about McDonald's and VN - one of them was that the Gov't here didn't want to welcome McDonalds, I somehow doubt that. Another rumour was that McDonald's looked into Vietnam, and decided they would need to import beef, while licensing authorities insisted on them using local beef. I doubt that rumour is true either, but at least it's somewhat credible; while it's possible to obtain good quality local beef in VN, getting larger quantities, consistently, every day, on time is a challenge. Anwyay, imho, no need to worry too much about McDonald's, beef is never going to be a big thing here.

answered about 64 months ago by kparsons
Konrad & Kathleen on an Uncle Tan's River Safari during a trip to Borneo

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if the Mickey D's in HCMC ever opened? We had heard it was slated to open March 2008, but it sounded like it had been delayed. Just wondering if it ever got off the ground.

answered about 64 months ago by hanoikiwi
Angkor Wat

This rumour has been around for quite sometime.My undesertanding is the Kinh Do Bakery chain was successful in acquiring the Macca's franchise.
The premises were allegedly for rent for US$40,000+ per month after BC moved out so thats a lot of 1/4 pounders!
Having only once eaten a Macca's burger - lamb burger in Delhi which was.....okay I am wondering if as beef may not be so popular here will we see today's special!

A 1/4 pound special Barking Beef Burger???

answered about 64 months ago by Carnation

Pippasweetie is right. Actually, it's not a rumour. My old manager who was involved in told me that MacDonald did conduct a survey in Vietnam in late 1990s. Then, they left due to some business reasons.

I was also told about their return and am asking my friends for further info.

answered about 64 months ago by Aaron

For what it's worth, I think there's a banking logo on the glass windows of the old Bobby Chinn space. That and I thought it was proven long ago that the McDonald's thing was just a rumor.

answered about 64 months ago by smudgeparsons
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I heard that MacDs came in before but upset people with an 'Uncle Ho Burger'!
I believe that about 300 people have signed up to be franchisees and that they didn't take BCs old place because of the $40k rent. It is going to be a Vietcombank.

answered about 64 months ago by hanoimonkey

I reckon KFC is far worse than maccas, in terms of fat content and the poor battery caged chickens. Yuk. Even if the golden arches don't surface at HK lake, it will only be a matter of time before some rich Vietnamese intrepreneur opens a macdonalds goldmine in Hanoi.

And is there beef in Vietnam? I thought we were eating buffalo...

answered about 64 months ago by zoec
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hey, can we start a petition concerning all corporations--microsoft, 7-11, nokia, whatever computer you use, etc...then we can all take our clothes off and run into the jungle and be perfect people and live happily ever after?

answered about 64 months ago by granteralus

*yawn*

answered about 64 months ago by Atomic

Vietwealth Capital is the logo on the cockadoody glass. Everyone pipe down already.

answered about 63 months ago by Leandro

omg. what's behind this rumor? I was already angry to see the logo of KFC right next to the Old Quarter. McDonads can come if it wants but please spare the nice spots in Hanoi.

answered about 63 months ago by Guffman
The joker

Bring it on and Super-size me.

I have my doubts. McD's isn't in the business of burgers, it's in the business of land. Their business strategy is pretty simple, own the land that has a McD's on it and generate revenue from the rental (plus skim the sales revenue). Since nobody here can own land I seriously have my doubts whether a single restaurant servicing the backpackers is really in the pipeline.

A single franchise usually fails, it takes three to get the branding to hit home and McD's would have to take Lotteria, Pizza Hut and KFC head on. Even if they could accomplish that they'd still get no rent money.

I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to get myself on the outside of 2 quarter pounders and a thick-shake.

answered about 63 months ago by Danthetaydevil

I heard a while ago that macca`s wouldnt come to vietnam because when negotiating with the government here part of the deal was they use local beef for their burgers and the local beef didnt reach the standards that maccas has worldwide for beer so the deal fell through....I guess even fast food empires have quality standards (of sorts)

answered about 63 months ago by Danthetaydevil

by beer i obviously mean beef :D...really shouldne be thinking about beer this early on a monday morning ?

answered about 63 months ago by natinnam

Back in the day, i spoke to the guy who came from McD, and the beef quality story is the offical version back then. Un-officially they were getting f*cked around into signing contracts with VN companys who they didn't want to do buisness with. In the end, he told me, f*ck this place (For now) as they were opening 1 to 2 a week in China.

Lastly i reckon they would follow all other fast food business models in VN, and open in HCMC first.

answered about 63 months ago by Grant
Phalacrocorax carbo...The Great Shag

Beer??? Well the r key is next to the f(ail) key....

answered about 63 months ago by tctaft

I think they're already in HCMC. The plague will spread to HN I'm sure. I can see a gold star in those arches. While it's considered "fast food" in the west, it'll never be "fast" food here. Be patient.

answered about 63 months ago by natinnam

Not here yet, iam in HCMC now, and some of you will be pleased to hear, they haven't arrived yet.

answered about 63 months ago by natinnam

They have officially pulled out of negotiations, and shelved any plans of opening here, after the opening of My Burger My.

answered about 63 months ago by xinhenei

Be it McDonald's or Burger King, let them bring in globalization to Vietnam! Glad that Bobby Chin is gone though!

answered about 63 months ago by dawnation

laughed out loud at nat's response - made neighbor peer inside my gate to see what happened.

yes, really, atomic.

answered about 62 months ago by Atomic

LOL
I'm lovin' it!

answered about 62 months ago by Shrimp_Whiskers

mmm...McDonald's. one can only dream. and what the hell is macca's? is that supposed to stand for McDonald's? that's like calling Michael Jackson "Jack-O." i don't get it...

answered about 62 months ago by Danthetaydevil

Again...Macca`s is an Aussie thing...
Ive heard some Yanks call it mickey d`s...WTF...

Aussie! Aussie! Aussie! OI!OI!OI

answered about 62 months ago by natinnam

# Golden Arches (U.S. slang)
# Mickey-D's (U.S. slang)
# Mick-dicks (U.S. slang)
# Macca's (Australian slang)
# Mackey-D's (British slang)
# MakDo (Filipino slang)
# MacDoh (French Canadian slang)
# McDo (French slang)
# Makku or Makudo (Japanese slang)
# McDoof (German slang)
# McD's (Scottish slang)
# Meki (Hungarian slang)
# Mec (Romanian slang)
# Donken, ''Mackid nnkan'' (amongst tweens) (Swedish slang)

It seems from the website where i pulled this from, that the Brits are using the US version.

Can we add to this list, do our Vietnamese friends have a term for the place ?

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answered about 56 months ago by nathanbrauer

Jeez, guys. It's just another restaurant. No reason to get all political. If people don't like it, they won't go there. It's not like they can have a monopoly on food.

answered about 56 months ago by Atomic

Did you just search this board for "McDonald's", and really feel the need to dredge this dead 'n buried thread back up just to share that, Nathan?

answered about 56 months ago by Vegas
Drink!

Old thread but I have to chuck my 2c in...

"Can we start a petition against it! "

That's an astonishingly dumb idea. As Nathan said above, if you don't like it, don't go there. Why would you want to deprive others* that do of the privilege? Does the existence of McDonalds in the town you live in offend you so much that you think you should have the right to prevent other people from going there? Talk about arrogant.


*including - I would guess - a helluva lot of Vietnamese, who have been living with the dismal Lotteria as their only burger chain all this time and would likely appreciate a superior alternative.

answered about 56 months ago by Vegas
Drink!

I meh on your meh!

answered about 56 months ago by TscTempest

Funny how this resurfaced - I guess it must be that time of the day/week/month/year [take your pick]

Macca's in Hanoi, you little ripper! Can't wait! Finally a predictable quality fish burger, clean toilets and consistent, albeit dumb-arsed, service.

I wonder what a McViet burger would consist of?
[A McOz had fried onions, tomato and bbq sauce on it]

Just for the record I'm a Mc Donald's connoisseur (and certainly not an apologist) who ate twice a day for two years straight in McDonald's prior to the controversy of "Supersize Me" and did'nt put on any extra weight? - fast metabolism, yeah I know you hate me ;-)

I've eaten Macca's all over the world and I've only seen two places where the franchise did not meet it's own international standards - one place in Shanghai, and one place in Melbourne.

BTW if you want controversy, revisit the Starbucks in the Forbidden City debate, that's an eye opener.

answered about 56 months ago by TscTempest

Meeeehhhhh!

repeat that and it sounds like a goat...

answered about 56 months ago by Vegas
Drink!

Agreed. McDonalds is what it is. Like Starbucks, there are too many sniffy wankers dissing it, saying how they're going to start up petitions to have it removed, whinging about how it's ruining the culture of the non-American city it finds itself in - and yet they'd probably eat there regardless - at least on the odd occasion. Sure, I stopped reeeeaaaally hankering after McD's offerings when I was about 13 and starting to think about food a bit more, but even now after all these years, it has its uses as a dependable source of comfort/convenience food.

And - crappy mass-produced fast food or not - I have to say that McDonalds dishes up a (much) better burger than 99% of the burger selling joints in this city. How'dya like them apples, McDonalds haters?

answered about 56 months ago by PinkPosh

Whilst I wouldn't hold the faith of it being actually clean, I would give it a go of they did open one here.....one can always hope.

answered about 55 months ago by bbmmzz

oh my god i wantt a big extra with cheese ..... and bacon mmmmmmmmmm

answered about 55 months ago by dior2k5
snow leopard

ewwww McD

for those who eat BigMac:
http://www.bionicburger.com/

answered about 55 months ago by Vegas
Drink!

Don't know about you, but I'm always skeptical of the claims of those pushing agendas.

answered about 55 months ago by BlanketyBlank
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sniffy wankers indeed! lol.

answered about 55 months ago by TscTempest

@ dior2k5, yea, nothing new in that. 21C [v2 Autumn/Winter, 1991] a magazine in Australia posted a magazine article about modern archaeological studies that found 40 y.o hotdogs still wrapped in a Manhattan Island landfill that they excavated that were still in pristine,edible condition.

Seeking truth in refuse
Landfills
The archaeology of contemporary landfills

answered about 55 months ago by TscTempest

Oops, Staten Island... silly me for missing that...

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answered about 50 months ago by SockMonkey

Any McDonald's sightings up there? We just got Carl's Jr. in Saigon: http://so-saigon.xemzi.com/en/venue/show/4902/Carls-Jr

answered about 50 months ago by DevDab
Pottery Day!

Not that I know of.
I hope Carl's Jr doesn't bring their degrading ads over to Vietnam, though.

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