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there have been various rumours about McDonald's and VN - one of them was that the Gov't here didn't want to welcome McDonalds, I somehow doubt that. Another rumour was that McDonald's looked into Vietnam, and decided they would need to import beef, while licensing authorities insisted on them using local beef. I doubt that rumour is true either, but at least it's somewhat credible; while it's possible to obtain good quality local beef in VN, getting larger quantities, consistently, every day, on time is a challenge. Anwyay, imho, no need to worry too much about McDonald's, beef is never going to be a big thing here.
This rumour has been around for quite sometime.My undesertanding is the Kinh Do Bakery chain was successful in acquiring the Macca's franchise.
The premises were allegedly for rent for US$40,000+ per month after BC moved out so thats a lot of 1/4 pounders!
Having only once eaten a Macca's burger - lamb burger in Delhi which was.....okay I am wondering if as beef may not be so popular here will we see today's special!
A 1/4 pound special Barking Beef Burger???
I reckon KFC is far worse than maccas, in terms of fat content and the poor battery caged chickens. Yuk. Even if the golden arches don't surface at HK lake, it will only be a matter of time before some rich Vietnamese intrepreneur opens a macdonalds goldmine in Hanoi.
And is there beef in Vietnam? I thought we were eating buffalo...
Bring it on and Super-size me.
I have my doubts. McD's isn't in the business of burgers, it's in the business of land. Their business strategy is pretty simple, own the land that has a McD's on it and generate revenue from the rental (plus skim the sales revenue). Since nobody here can own land I seriously have my doubts whether a single restaurant servicing the backpackers is really in the pipeline.
A single franchise usually fails, it takes three to get the branding to hit home and McD's would have to take Lotteria, Pizza Hut and KFC head on. Even if they could accomplish that they'd still get no rent money.
I hope I'm wrong. I'd love to get myself on the outside of 2 quarter pounders and a thick-shake.
I heard a while ago that macca`s wouldnt come to vietnam because when negotiating with the government here part of the deal was they use local beef for their burgers and the local beef didnt reach the standards that maccas has worldwide for beer so the deal fell through....I guess even fast food empires have quality standards (of sorts)
Back in the day, i spoke to the guy who came from McD, and the beef quality story is the offical version back then. Un-officially they were getting f*cked around into signing contracts with VN companys who they didn't want to do buisness with. In the end, he told me, f*ck this place (For now) as they were opening 1 to 2 a week in China.
Lastly i reckon they would follow all other fast food business models in VN, and open in HCMC first.
# Golden Arches (U.S. slang)
# Mickey-D's (U.S. slang)
# Mick-dicks (U.S. slang)
# Macca's (Australian slang)
# Mackey-D's (British slang)
# MakDo (Filipino slang)
# MacDoh (French Canadian slang)
# McDo (French slang)
# Makku or Makudo (Japanese slang)
# McDoof (German slang)
# McD's (Scottish slang)
# Meki (Hungarian slang)
# Mec (Romanian slang)
# Donken, ''Mackid nnkan'' (amongst tweens) (Swedish slang)
It seems from the website where i pulled this from, that the Brits are using the US version.
Can we add to this list, do our Vietnamese friends have a term for the place ?
Old thread but I have to chuck my 2c in...
"Can we start a petition against it! "
That's an astonishingly dumb idea. As Nathan said above, if you don't like it, don't go there. Why would you want to deprive others* that do of the privilege? Does the existence of McDonalds in the town you live in offend you so much that you think you should have the right to prevent other people from going there? Talk about arrogant.
*including - I would guess - a helluva lot of Vietnamese, who have been living with the dismal Lotteria as their only burger chain all this time and would likely appreciate a superior alternative.
Funny how this resurfaced - I guess it must be that time of the day/week/month/year [take your pick]
Macca's in Hanoi, you little ripper! Can't wait! Finally a predictable quality fish burger, clean toilets and consistent, albeit dumb-arsed, service.
I wonder what a McViet burger would consist of?
[A McOz had fried onions, tomato and bbq sauce on it]
Just for the record I'm a Mc Donald's connoisseur (and certainly not an apologist) who ate twice a day for two years straight in McDonald's prior to the controversy of "Supersize Me" and did'nt put on any extra weight? - fast metabolism, yeah I know you hate me ;-)
I've eaten Macca's all over the world and I've only seen two places where the franchise did not meet it's own international standards - one place in Shanghai, and one place in Melbourne.
BTW if you want controversy, revisit the Starbucks in the Forbidden City debate, that's an eye opener.
Agreed. McDonalds is what it is. Like Starbucks, there are too many sniffy wankers dissing it, saying how they're going to start up petitions to have it removed, whinging about how it's ruining the culture of the non-American city it finds itself in - and yet they'd probably eat there regardless - at least on the odd occasion. Sure, I stopped reeeeaaaally hankering after McD's offerings when I was about 13 and starting to think about food a bit more, but even now after all these years, it has its uses as a dependable source of comfort/convenience food.
And - crappy mass-produced fast food or not - I have to say that McDonalds dishes up a (much) better burger than 99% of the burger selling joints in this city. How'dya like them apples, McDonalds haters?
@ dior2k5, yea, nothing new in that. 21C [v2 Autumn/Winter, 1991] a magazine in Australia posted a magazine article about modern archaeological studies that found 40 y.o hotdogs still wrapped in a Manhattan Island landfill that they excavated that were still in pristine,edible condition.
Seeking truth in refuse
The archaeology of contemporary landfills